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  1. I was horribly emotionally abused by a psychopath. He fooled me with his charm. He pretended to be someone good, while being a con man underneath. He was a white male and I was a black male, and I thought later, it was racism alone, but I soon realized his psychopathy makes him hate all living things, without any guilt. I am certain he will hurt others and continue with his total lack of empathy. I just hope psychopathy can be eliminated like smallpox, as its effects are horrific, on all of society. I do not see how a emotionless life can be meaningful to a psychopath. The real victims are those who will and are being hurt by these sadistic monsters. Psychopaths are cowards who fake emotion. I am particularly distressed by the ignoble fashion of admiring psychopaths for their putative but entirely false “wisdom”. Psychopathy may be favoured by capitalism or natural selection, but it is evil and harmful to all of society, and must be seen as a dangerous negative disorder, of incalculable harm to all.

    1. Sorry about your experience, Mike. There was a time in the evolution of our species when these fearless, heartless individuals probably helped save us from extinction. But in our “civilized” and highly inter-dependent world they no longer fit well and pose grave dangers. Still, “eliminating” them is actually somewhat risky in that, theoretically, the time could come once again when our species might actually need such folks among us to help us survive.

  2. Dear Dr. Simon,

    It is all so interesting, but also intriguing in a way, that I still need to put a couple of pieces together. Would you please, answer these questions for me:
    1. Since the predatory aggressive is the most dangerous and, as you believe, the BPD psychopath is the worst, these two, I assume, should crisscross and the BPD Psycho is predatory.
    So at what instances they crisscross and WHAT MAKES THE BPD PSYCO PREDATORY???? AND THE WORST?
    2. Still struggle with differences. They all (perhaps with the exception of unbridled), feel above others. What makes ‘predatory’ different from other aggressive? Can’t they be ‘covert’, or ‘sadistic’, at the same time? Sadistic built themselves up at the expense of others, so they need others. ‘Predators’ also need others to “eat them up”. If they don’t have any pleasure while doing this, why they do it? If they only need to get what they need, then wouldn’t ‘aggressive’ be enough? WHAT is it they want and WHY??
    3. why thinking they are wired this way is harmful? I personally feel like running, if I think this way. Yes, ‘wired’ sounds like an excuse, but ‘circumstances’ to me, is more like a stimuli for victims to stay to continue to help in the hope of change.

    I may be an idiot, who doesn’t deserve PhD in Political/Social Science, or too obsessive about getting to the root. However, thanks to your accomplishments (and mentioning your sites), it hasn’t been a problem for me so far, to bit “the psychology PhD posters”, that still claim there is no disturbance in such people, just ‘different, as all humans are’….. especially when they bring the sociological arguments to the picture…..brrrr.

    Thank you.

  3. I find it highly unlikely that all
    – or even most – of these “psychopaths” consciously and intentionally engage in their stereotypical behaviors. Yet folks have been frightening by this ever-more-popular fear campaign.
    Further, the incredible hypocrisy of society – and of the head-shrinking community in particular – manifests in negative actions and attitudes concerning psychopathic individuals.
    I find it a bit droll, to be frank; a lack of compassion and empathy is what neurologically normal individuals despise, and yet neither compassion nor empathy are present when considering the psychopath.
    Humans are awfully funny, aren’t we?

    1. Hello Michael, I would urge you to view this article in the context of the other articles I’ve written on the continuum of character disturbance and also the spectrum that I lay out in my book Character Disturbance. While indeed there are many disturbed characters who don’t have all the calculting, predatory intentionality of a true psychopath, it’s precisely because many find it difficult to believe psychopaths are this intentional that they so often succeed in victimizing.

    2. I don’t intend for anyone to underestimate this abnormal psychological phenomenon. It is, irrefutably, a matter of import.
      What I do intend, however, is to draw attention to what is a natural, but hypocritical reaction; that is, hate.
      Although I appreciate your – undoubtedly well-researched – professional opinions, I really must place myself in opposition to the negative generalization of an entire population, most of whom function adequately within the arbitrary structures of a “polite” society. Some are, I dare say, quite skilled in suppressing predatory tendencies until such a time as they are warranted.
      I suppose I’ve been beating around the bush here. It is necessary to view psychopaths as humans, because they “have human shape, and deserve human doubt.” Neurologically normal individuals ought not be so quick to draw a moral line between man and beast.
      And even then, should we hate the hungry tiger, since he brings danger? Or should we recognize the value of the predator, and make use of him in our ecosystem?
      In any case, I do enjoy your work and appreciate your reply.

  4. Dr. Robert Hare perhaps has been the leading researcher on psychopathy in modern times. He is the developer of the checklist used to identify psychopaths and other seriously disturbed characters and the risks they pose. His book “Without Conscience” is well worth the read.

  5. Dear Dr. Simon,
    Thank you for your work. More than anyone you simplify this issue and force us to see the character deficits these people have. You are so right, we all have a moment when we foreshadow the manipulation and callousness but we choose to ignore it. Somehow we need to learn to be more mindful and tolerate the guilt we feel about being repulsed by them. Maybe instead of the gift of fear, the gift of disgust. Your limbic system helping you to not eat poison.
    ,Thanks again

  6. Dear Dr. Simon,

    Thank you for posting these articles.

    I’ve re-read them a few times and seem to be confused with the separate categorization of Predatory Aggressive Personality (rather than an extreme version of the other Aggressive Personality Types).

    I’ll explain:

    In the articles, I read the synopsis:
    “1. Unbridled Aggressive, who is frequently in conflict with the law.
    2. Channeled-Aggressive, who generally limits ruthlessness to non-criminal activity.
    3. Covert-Aggressive, who cloaks their cruelty under a veneer of civility and manipulates others in the process.
    4. Sadistic Aggressive, whose principal aim is to demean and injure others.”

    Then, I proceeded to read the in-depth articles of each. I understood them very well for the 4 subtypes above.

    For the Predatory Aggressive Personality, I didn’t quite understand the difference. In my mind, it appeared to overlap with with all of the other Narcissistic tendencies that I found common to the other 4 Aggressive Personalities – which brought upon the question: Is the “Predatory Aggressive Personality” exclusive or is it possibly an extreme of any of the four other Aggressive Personalities? In other words, is it possible that an Unbridled Aggressive (or Channeled Aggressive, Covert Aggressive, or Sadistic Aggressive) could also be a Predatory Aggressive Personality? A hybrid – but rather an extreme hybrid if you will where the respective (Unbridled Aggressive, Channeled Aggressive, Covert Aggressive, or Sadistic Aggressive) character of these types intentionally seeks out its prey (thus becoming a Predatory Aggressive Personality). Whereas, if they chose to not intentionally seek out their prey it would be considered more of an opportunistic hunt for the predator (my understanding is that predators exist in two subtypes: Opportunistic vs. Intentional).

    The reason why I am stuck on this is because all of the types of Aggressive Personalities (Unbridled, Channeled, Covert, Sadistic, and Predatory) appear to be cases where a Predatory is targeting a prey – a victim – that they get to know well, and through manipulation and common narcissistic tendencies are able to successfully take complete advantage of the victim.

    Thank you and very excited to hear back,

    Victoria

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