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	<title>Comments on: Minimization: Trivializing Behavior as a Manipulation Tactic</title>
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		<title>By: G3</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-50038</link>
		<dc:creator>G3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently realized that my marriage was not just physically abusive but emotionally abusive too. Your article perfectly fit the situations I faced to an extent wherein I would feel crazy and all the more apologetic and guilty. I moved out because of the peculiar problem of him not just hitting me, but also his hitting himself. I thought it was denial but its manipulation.
Thanks for sharing this article
G3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently realized that my marriage was not just physically abusive but emotionally abusive too. Your article perfectly fit the situations I faced to an extent wherein I would feel crazy and all the more apologetic and guilty. I moved out because of the peculiar problem of him not just hitting me, but also his hitting himself. I thought it was denial but its manipulation.<br />
Thanks for sharing this article<br />
G3</p>
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		<title>By: Plagiarism, Copyright and Lies, Oh My! &#171; Rambling On</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-49977</link>
		<dc:creator>Plagiarism, Copyright and Lies, Oh My! &#171; Rambling On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Minimizing and trivializing &#8212; yet another abuse tactic. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Minimizing and trivializing &mdash; yet another abuse tactic. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-49762</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s one thing for an adult to deal with a person who minimizes and manipulates through various methods, but quite another for a child to learn to deal with a parent who operates this way. It&#039;s taken me several years of therapy to recognize what was going on in my marriage relative to the abusive behaviors of my husband. Was the problem with me, I wondered? So, my struggle is to go through the separation/divorce process - difficult enough on its own - but the real challenge is to empathize (so they know they aren&#039;t nuts) with the children in their problems with their father, but also support them in having some kind of healthy relationship with their father. Is that possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one thing for an adult to deal with a person who minimizes and manipulates through various methods, but quite another for a child to learn to deal with a parent who operates this way. It&#8217;s taken me several years of therapy to recognize what was going on in my marriage relative to the abusive behaviors of my husband. Was the problem with me, I wondered? So, my struggle is to go through the separation/divorce process &#8211; difficult enough on its own &#8211; but the real challenge is to empathize (so they know they aren&#8217;t nuts) with the children in their problems with their father, but also support them in having some kind of healthy relationship with their father. Is that possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr George Simon, PhD</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-49185</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr George Simon, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comment, Tom.  You are absolutely correct in your observation.  I tend to differentiate the tactic of &quot;exaggeration&quot; from the mental anguish catastrophizing of the neurotic.  I will be mentioning the exaggeration tactic in an upcoming post.  

Again, thanks for your endorsement of my work and for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment, Tom.  You are absolutely correct in your observation.  I tend to differentiate the tactic of &#8220;exaggeration&#8221; from the mental anguish catastrophizing of the neurotic.  I will be mentioning the exaggeration tactic in an upcoming post.  </p>
<p>Again, thanks for your endorsement of my work and for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: TomR</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-49183</link>
		<dc:creator>TomR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dr. Simon,

Thank you so much for writing In Sheep&#039;s Clothing.  It&#039;s a book that I keep turning back to whenever I&#039;m trying to help others learn how manipulation works.  And now that you&#039;re continuing your work on the web, that&#039;s even better.

If I may be so bold to make a recommendation (since you are seeking feedback), I think you could add Catastrophizing to your official list of manipulation tactics.  As you know, itâ€™s the opposite of Minimization and can be thought of as â€œmaking a mountain out of a molehill.â€  

You mention how it pertains to neuroticsâ€™ interpretation of their own behavior, but I&#039;ve seen this tactic used effectively to manipulate others both on a personal level and on the world stage.  For example, in the run-up to the Iraq war, Americans were manipulated, in part, into supporting the idea of going to war with Iraq through statements like these:

â€œAmerica must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.â€
- George W. Bush, October 7, 2002

â€œThe problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly Saddam can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don&#039;t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.â€ 
- Condoleezza Rice, September 8, 2002

Moreover, Vice President Dick Cheney created an entire policy doctrine based upon Catastrophizing called the &quot;1% Doctrine&quot; or the &quot;Cheney Doctrine&quot;:

&quot;Under the Cheney Doctrine, Mr. Suskind writes, &#039;a one percent chance of catastrophe must be treated &#039;as a certainty,&#039; where firm evidence, of either intent or capability, is too high a threshold; where the doctrine is, in essence, prevention based on suspicion.&#039;&quot;
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/timestopics/cheney-books.html

Catastrophizing works by presenting the world or a situation in stark, black and white terms so the manipulator gets what he/she wants from the victim. Only the most distorted or extreme possible outcomes are presented in order to effectively limit and distort the victimâ€™s perception of reasonable options. Outcomes contrary to the manipulatorâ€™s agenda are exaggerated to foment fear and dissuade the victim from their consideration.

Thanks again,

- Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dr. Simon,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for writing In Sheep&#8217;s Clothing.  It&#8217;s a book that I keep turning back to whenever I&#8217;m trying to help others learn how manipulation works.  And now that you&#8217;re continuing your work on the web, that&#8217;s even better.</p>
<p>If I may be so bold to make a recommendation (since you are seeking feedback), I think you could add Catastrophizing to your official list of manipulation tactics.  As you know, itâ€™s the opposite of Minimization and can be thought of as â€œmaking a mountain out of a molehill.â€  </p>
<p>You mention how it pertains to neuroticsâ€™ interpretation of their own behavior, but I&#8217;ve seen this tactic used effectively to manipulate others both on a personal level and on the world stage.  For example, in the run-up to the Iraq war, Americans were manipulated, in part, into supporting the idea of going to war with Iraq through statements like these:</p>
<p>â€œAmerica must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.â€<br />
- George W. Bush, October 7, 2002</p>
<p>â€œThe problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly Saddam can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don&#8217;t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.â€<br />
- Condoleezza Rice, September 8, 2002</p>
<p>Moreover, Vice President Dick Cheney created an entire policy doctrine based upon Catastrophizing called the &#8220;1% Doctrine&#8221; or the &#8220;Cheney Doctrine&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Under the Cheney Doctrine, Mr. Suskind writes, &#8216;a one percent chance of catastrophe must be treated &#8216;as a certainty,&#8217; where firm evidence, of either intent or capability, is too high a threshold; where the doctrine is, in essence, prevention based on suspicion.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/timestopics/cheney-books.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/timestopics/cheney-books.html</a></p>
<p>Catastrophizing works by presenting the world or a situation in stark, black and white terms so the manipulator gets what he/she wants from the victim. Only the most distorted or extreme possible outcomes are presented in order to effectively limit and distort the victimâ€™s perception of reasonable options. Outcomes contrary to the manipulatorâ€™s agenda are exaggerated to foment fear and dissuade the victim from their consideration.</p>
<p>Thanks again,</p>
<p>- Tom</p>
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		<title>By: So Much More Than A Mom</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-48886</link>
		<dc:creator>So Much More Than A Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr George Simon, PhD</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-48883</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr George Simon, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments, all.  I so much appreciate the feedback.  I use every bit of feedback to further refine my work.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments, all.  I so much appreciate the feedback.  I use every bit of feedback to further refine my work.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariana</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-48880</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the worst impacts minimization has on adult life is that when parents minimize children&#039;s problems they grow to accept big issues as &quot;normal issues&quot; they have to put up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the worst impacts minimization has on adult life is that when parents minimize children&#8217;s problems they grow to accept big issues as &#8220;normal issues&#8221; they have to put up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-48861</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in this position. Had a row with my partner today about something I&#039;d done, which he then went on to use as justification for his possessiveness. He&#039;d accused me of staring at someone else (I hadn&#039;t), his response was &quot;can you blame me the way you&#039;re acting?&quot; My &quot;acting&quot; had been me being angry and uptight as my mother is dying, and it was a rare time I&#039;d taken it out on him. 

The minimization can really make you feel like you&#039;re going nuts, I end up questioning myself and thinking &quot;is it me, am I mad&quot;. Think it&#039;s better to leave sooner rather than later before you lose sense of reality, I&#039;d always say that to anyone now (one day I&#039;ll learn that myself!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in this position. Had a row with my partner today about something I&#8217;d done, which he then went on to use as justification for his possessiveness. He&#8217;d accused me of staring at someone else (I hadn&#8217;t), his response was &#8220;can you blame me the way you&#8217;re acting?&#8221; My &#8220;acting&#8221; had been me being angry and uptight as my mother is dying, and it was a rare time I&#8217;d taken it out on him. </p>
<p>The minimization can really make you feel like you&#8217;re going nuts, I end up questioning myself and thinking &#8220;is it me, am I mad&#8221;. Think it&#8217;s better to leave sooner rather than later before you lose sense of reality, I&#8217;d always say that to anyone now (one day I&#8217;ll learn that myself!).</p>
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		<title>By: So Much More Than A Mom</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/23/minimization-manipulation-tactic/#comment-48835</link>
		<dc:creator>So Much More Than A Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh brother am I familiar with this one.  And it certainly does work.  My father used to minimize his brutal verbal and physical attacks to the point of laughing at me for getting so upset over such a &quot;trivial argument&quot;.  I always ended up feeling foolish, too sensitive and crazy.  Thank you so much for these great articles, they are so helpful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh brother am I familiar with this one.  And it certainly does work.  My father used to minimize his brutal verbal and physical attacks to the point of laughing at me for getting so upset over such a &#8220;trivial argument&#8221;.  I always ended up feeling foolish, too sensitive and crazy.  Thank you so much for these great articles, they are so helpful!</p>
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