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	<title>Comments on: New Version of Comment Numbering Plugin Adds Features and Fixes</title>
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	<description>Looking at life through the prism of psychology, philosophy, mental health and more. Originally created by counsellor, psychotherapist and philosopher Dr Greg Mulhauser, this blog is now the work of an international team of contributors.</description>
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		<title>By: Dr Greg Mulhauser, Managing Editor</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/03/comment-numbering-plugin-new-version/#comment-48856</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Greg Mulhauser, Managing Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lex,

You&#039;ve very welcome -- I&#039;m glad to hear the formatting end of things is at least workable, and the plugin is doing its job for you!

All the best,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lex,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve very welcome &#8212; I&#8217;m glad to hear the formatting end of things is at least workable, and the plugin is doing its job for you!</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/03/comment-numbering-plugin-new-version/#comment-48855</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your extended reply. In the interim, I placed some force coding in the comments css, thus:

}
ul.commentlist p {
	margin-top: 1em;
}
ul.commentlist p {
	margin-bottom: 1em;

It&#039;s not perfect, but it gets the job done.

Thanks again for your plug-in, and your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your extended reply. In the interim, I placed some force coding in the comments css, thus:</p>
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ul.commentlist p {<br />
	margin-top: 1em;<br />
}<br />
ul.commentlist p {<br />
	margin-bottom: 1em;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not perfect, but it gets the job done.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your plug-in, and your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Greg Mulhauser, Managing Editor</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/03/comment-numbering-plugin-new-version/#comment-48850</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Greg Mulhauser, Managing Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lex,

I haven&#039;t seen the code for the particular theme you&#039;re using, but here&#039;s my guess about what&#039;s happening...

First, some background:

As you probably know, the new version of WP supports the use of a callback function to spit out the various pieces of a comment (e.g., the date, name, comment body, etc.). When a callback function spits out those various pieces, it also wraps them up with tags and classes and such to make it into a piece of valid XHTML that can be styled.

The plugin provides a function which gets called by the callback function to deliver the comment number. (Summary so far: comment loop calls callback function, and callback function calls various functions that deliver pieces of comment, one of which is the comment number.)

So if a WordPress theme &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; has a callback function, you can modify that existing callback function to include a call to the plugin to deliver the number. That way, whatever other structuring and formatting jobs the callback function might be doing won&#039;t be disturbed.

If the theme doesn&#039;t have a callback function, on the other hand, then it will need one in order to take advantage of all the new WP 2.7 features. The plugin provides a very basic one which happens to yield structure and formatting along the lines of the default theme included with WordPress. It can be used as a starting point for retro-fitting older themes which do not yet include full support for the latest and greatest comment features.

However -- wow, we&#039;re getting to my guess at last! -- the catch is that the styling component of all themes will have been designed with certain assumptions in mind about how the comments will be structured and what CSS classes will be used where. So if we take a 2.7-unaware theme and plop in a callback function that delivers comments in a way the theme wasn&#039;t expecting, the resulting styles might be all over the map. What I think you&#039;re probably seeing is the result of using the latest WP comment loop features with a theme whose styling is built around a different structure for the comments.

Solution 1: Contact the theme developer and encourage them to add a callback function for some WP 2.7 goodness.

Solution 2: Switch back to your previous comments, make a careful note of exactly how they are structured, and then create a new callback function that delivers them in the same way, using the basic callback function as a starting point and modifying from there. (This amounts to doing the job of Solution 1 yourself.)

Good luck, and all the best,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lex,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the code for the particular theme you&#8217;re using, but here&#8217;s my guess about what&#8217;s happening&#8230;</p>
<p>First, some background:</p>
<p>As you probably know, the new version of WP supports the use of a callback function to spit out the various pieces of a comment (e.g., the date, name, comment body, etc.). When a callback function spits out those various pieces, it also wraps them up with tags and classes and such to make it into a piece of valid XHTML that can be styled.</p>
<p>The plugin provides a function which gets called by the callback function to deliver the comment number. (Summary so far: comment loop calls callback function, and callback function calls various functions that deliver pieces of comment, one of which is the comment number.)</p>
<p>So if a WordPress theme <em>already</em> has a callback function, you can modify that existing callback function to include a call to the plugin to deliver the number. That way, whatever other structuring and formatting jobs the callback function might be doing won&#8217;t be disturbed.</p>
<p>If the theme doesn&#8217;t have a callback function, on the other hand, then it will need one in order to take advantage of all the new WP 2.7 features. The plugin provides a very basic one which happens to yield structure and formatting along the lines of the default theme included with WordPress. It can be used as a starting point for retro-fitting older themes which do not yet include full support for the latest and greatest comment features.</p>
<p>However &#8212; wow, we&#8217;re getting to my guess at last! &#8212; the catch is that the styling component of all themes will have been designed with certain assumptions in mind about how the comments will be structured and what CSS classes will be used where. So if we take a 2.7-unaware theme and plop in a callback function that delivers comments in a way the theme wasn&#8217;t expecting, the resulting styles might be all over the map. What I think you&#8217;re probably seeing is the result of using the latest WP comment loop features with a theme whose styling is built around a different structure for the comments.</p>
<p>Solution 1: Contact the theme developer and encourage them to add a callback function for some WP 2.7 goodness.</p>
<p>Solution 2: Switch back to your previous comments, make a careful note of exactly how they are structured, and then create a new callback function that delivers them in the same way, using the basic callback function as a starting point and modifying from there. (This amounts to doing the job of Solution 1 yourself.)</p>
<p>Good luck, and all the best,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2009/02/03/comment-numbering-plugin-new-version/#comment-48849</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctor,

For some reason when I use your plug-in to restore the comment numbering schema, the size of my comment font is drastically reduced. It&#039;s practically unreadable now. 

I&#039;ve dithered around inside the Cutline theme trying to find how to restore the comments to a more legible size unsuccessfully. Is there any chance you can point me in the right direction?

Very much appreciate your efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctor,</p>
<p>For some reason when I use your plug-in to restore the comment numbering schema, the size of my comment font is drastically reduced. It&#8217;s practically unreadable now. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve dithered around inside the Cutline theme trying to find how to restore the comments to a more legible size unsuccessfully. Is there any chance you can point me in the right direction?</p>
<p>Very much appreciate your efforts.</p>
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