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	<title>Comments on: Dangerous Foreign Criminals?</title>
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		<title>By: Managing Editor</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2006/05/03/deportation/comment-page-1/#comment-9097</link>
		<dc:creator>Managing Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 11:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joel,

Thanks for your comments on this -- although it&#039;s disheartening to learn that something similar is happening on the opposite side of the globe.

I liked that commentary in the first link you posted, and I certainly hope she &lt;em&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; get fired!

It&#039;s odd to me that something which so hints at xenophobia seems to be occurring simultaneously with what seems to be a general trend toward hyper-sensitivity regarding racism. I could be totally wrong in my perception of this hyper-sensitivity, but I wonder whether anything like it looks familiar to you or others in countries outside the UK?

As an example of what I experience as rationality-robbing hyper-sensitivity, in the UK the following form of reasoning seems to have become popular:

1) Some measurable characteristic occurs with a different frequency across two racial or ethnic groups.

2) Therefore, there must be a difference in how the two racial or ethnic groups are being treated, and

3) Therefore, someone is being racist.

This general form of reasoning cashes out as arguments like: More [insert ethnic group] people than [insert different ethnic group] people are being arrested for [insert crime], so the police must be racist. Woe to those who might question whether this is a valid form of reasoning, lest they be seen as racist themselves or -- even worse! -- so unaware of cultural nuances that they don&#039;t even realize they are being racist. It seems to me that hyper-sensitivity with regard to race issues prevents much of the media from thinking carefully about whether the form of argument itself makes any sense -- only the conclusion seems to matter.

Yet, if someone were to argue something along the following lines, we would probably just look at them like they were confused: More 20-year old people than 95-year old people are being arrested for armed robbery, so the police must be agist.

The fundamental point that the &lt;em&gt;underlying forms of argument&lt;/em&gt; are identical seems to be lost in most of the British media.

(&lt;em&gt;Obviously&lt;/em&gt;, it may be the case that the police really &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; racist -- or agist, for that matter -- but these forms of reasoning just don&#039;t demonstrate that; nor do any of the myriad similar &#039;arguments&#039; which conflate correlation with causation.)

That what seems to be borderline xenophobia can be occurring simultaneously with what seems to be hyper-sensitivity about racism is remarkable!

All the best,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joel,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments on this &#8212; although it&#8217;s disheartening to learn that something similar is happening on the opposite side of the globe.</p>
<p>I liked that commentary in the first link you posted, and I certainly hope she <em>didn&#8217;t</em> get fired!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s odd to me that something which so hints at xenophobia seems to be occurring simultaneously with what seems to be a general trend toward hyper-sensitivity regarding racism. I could be totally wrong in my perception of this hyper-sensitivity, but I wonder whether anything like it looks familiar to you or others in countries outside the UK?</p>
<p>As an example of what I experience as rationality-robbing hyper-sensitivity, in the UK the following form of reasoning seems to have become popular:</p>
<p>1) Some measurable characteristic occurs with a different frequency across two racial or ethnic groups.</p>
<p>2) Therefore, there must be a difference in how the two racial or ethnic groups are being treated, and</p>
<p>3) Therefore, someone is being racist.</p>
<p>This general form of reasoning cashes out as arguments like: More [insert ethnic group] people than [insert different ethnic group] people are being arrested for [insert crime], so the police must be racist. Woe to those who might question whether this is a valid form of reasoning, lest they be seen as racist themselves or &#8212; even worse! &#8212; so unaware of cultural nuances that they don&#8217;t even realize they are being racist. It seems to me that hyper-sensitivity with regard to race issues prevents much of the media from thinking carefully about whether the form of argument itself makes any sense &#8212; only the conclusion seems to matter.</p>
<p>Yet, if someone were to argue something along the following lines, we would probably just look at them like they were confused: More 20-year old people than 95-year old people are being arrested for armed robbery, so the police must be agist.</p>
<p>The fundamental point that the <em>underlying forms of argument</em> are identical seems to be lost in most of the British media.</p>
<p>(<em>Obviously</em>, it may be the case that the police really <em>are</em> racist &#8212; or agist, for that matter &#8212; but these forms of reasoning just don&#8217;t demonstrate that; nor do any of the myriad similar &#8216;arguments&#8217; which conflate correlation with causation.)</p>
<p>That what seems to be borderline xenophobia can be occurring simultaneously with what seems to be hyper-sensitivity about racism is remarkable!</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Joel W</title>
		<link>http://counsellingresource.com/features/2006/05/03/deportation/comment-page-1/#comment-9069</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 09:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Zealand, has exactly the same issue happening at the moment.

I wonder if it is some sort of media/air meme floating around the globe causing racial disrest and finger pointing...

See : http://www.publicaddress.net/default,3128.sm

(apparently I won&#039;t get fired for this entry)

Which is related to:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/0,2106,3652611a6005,00.html



Kind regards

JoelW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Zealand, has exactly the same issue happening at the moment.</p>
<p>I wonder if it is some sort of media/air meme floating around the globe causing racial disrest and finger pointing&#8230;</p>
<p>See : <a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/default,3128.sm" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicaddress.net/default,3128.sm</a></p>
<p>(apparently I won&#8217;t get fired for this entry)</p>
<p>Which is related to:<br />
<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/0,2106,3652611a6005,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/0,2106,3652611a6005,00.html</a></p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>JoelW</p>
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